Update: Santiglia vs. Sun Microsystems
Update: Santiglia vs. Sun Microsystems
Date: Friday, August 22, 2003 2:35 PM
JOB DESTRUCTION NEWSLETTER
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I constantly get questions from people that ask how they can take
action on workplace discrimination against American citizens. The
answer isn't simple because the burden of proof is on the person making
the discrimination complaint. Generally speaking the government will
always accept the word of employers unless the complainant can prove
without a doubt that the employer is at fault or is lying. Corporations
have more legal resources than most government agencies so many times
the agencies only do rudimentary investigations.
The Guy Santiglia case against Sun Microsystems is a classic
illustration of just how difficult it is to induce our government to do
anything about the replacement of American workers by the cheap young
blood of nonimmigrants. For those of you that don't know, Guy Santiglia
and many others were replaced by H-1Bs at Sun Microsystems. Last year
he had a court hearing held by the Department of Labor. The hearing was
a kangaroo court and it was made even worse because Guy didn't have
good legal representation. You can read more about it here:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?L22E51AA5
The DOL hearing was discouraging but Guy hasn't given up on his quest
for justice. Guy believes that more people should file complaints and
he is willing to help whoever needs it.
Guy and his wife moved to Bozeman, Montana because they could no longer
to afford the high cost of living in Silicon Valley. Guy supplements
his income by working on construction projects and some occasional
computer consulting jobs. He has a website at:
http://www.awesomeopossum.com/
Listed below are some ongoing actions that Guy is continuing to work
on. For those of you wanting to take action against employers this
information could be very useful.
We all learned a very hard lesson from Sangiglia's experience:
complaining to the government will not abate the need for a good
lawyer. Government agencies have very limited budgets and rich
corporations like Sun can easily outspend them. If any of you are
serious about filing complaints, you better be ready for some hardball.
----- DOJ OSC -----
http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/osc/index.html
Office of Special Counsel is the place to complain for discrimination
based on citizenship or visa status. The OSC did an investigation on
Santiglia's case but dismissed all charges. The investigation resulted
in five thousand pages of material.
Santiglia did a Freedom of Information Act request for the material but
the DOJ hasn't cooperated. They are citing a Janet Reno office memo
from 1993 that allows them to deny material that they feel violates
privacy. Incidentally, the DOJ is using the same Janet Reno memo to
deny me information that is contained on I-129 forms. In both cases the
Janet Reno memo is irrelevant because it's not the law of the land, and
it's very vague about what kind of information can be withheld. The DOJ
will probably use this ploy on many other FOIAs until a lawsuit is
filed in federal court.
Reno's memo can be viewed here:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?F2FE31AA5
----- OFCCP -----
http://www.dol.gov/esa/ofccp/
Office of Federal Contract Compliance Programs is concerned only with
federal contractors and subcontractors while the EEOC is concerned with
almost all U.S. employers. Sun is a Federal contractor and that is why
the OFCCP also had jurisdiction to investigate them. Unfortunately they
considered Santiglia's complaint as race discrimination. Since Sun
meets race quotas, or so they claim, they dismissed his case. The OFCCP
either ignored Santiglia's claim of national origin discrimination or
the didn't understand it.
----- EEOC -----
http://www.eeoc.gov/
The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission handles complaints
concerning discrimination based on national origin. Unfortunately they
don't usually accept complaints if you were born in the U.S. They
typically they only handle complaints if you were born outside the U.S.
and you claim that your employer discriminated against you. Since
Santiglia was born in the USA, the EEOC didn't seem to be interested,
and consequently dismissed his case.
----- BCIS (formerly INS) -----
http://www.bcis.gov/
Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services accepts complaints
concerning whether a job is a specialty occupation. Sun claimed that
system administrators must have a college degree, so they are a
specialty occupation that is covered by H-1B regulations. Santiglia
doesn't have a college degree and yet that's the job he did and he
wasnt' alone - many others at Sun didn't have college degrees, and yet
they were replaced also. Santiglia claims that since Sun doesn't
require degreed professionals for these positions, they shouldn't be
allowed to hire H-1Bs.
One year later it's not clear if the BCIS has done anything on the case
yet. It's still pending.
--- DOL ARB ---
Guy Santiglia appealed the Kangaroo court decision by Judge Gee to the
DOL Administrative Review Board (ARB). In order to help his appeal,
several activists, including myself, requested to be "interested
parties" in order to submit evidence to help his case. Being an
interested party is similar to an "Amices Curiae" brief. Our requests
were denied for reasons that are discussed below.
Here is a list of the requestors:
Rob Sanchez
Dr. Norman Matloff
Joe Valley
Robert Smith
Here are some brief summaries of what we hoped to accomplish, (Matloff
hasn't given me a brief)
by Norman Matloff - http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/itaa.html
Guy tried to call me as an expert witness at the hearing. Sun asked
that I not be allowed to testify, as supposedly I didn't know anything
about Sun's specific actions on LCAs in this case. The fact is that I
knew quite a bit about those actions, and had been prepared to testify
on them. Guy's then-lawyer offered to the court that I give a brief
summary of the nature of my testimony, but the judge refused. This was
counter to a number of principles of administrative law, which I cited
in my brief.
Since the ARB review could only address whether Judge Gee committed any
procedural errors, I stuck to that topic, and did not address the
general H-1B issue (which I would not have done in the hearing either).
by Joe Valley - www.american-champions.org
Joseph Valley stated that he wanted to write a brief in order to
express to the ARB the importance of the public posting of the Labor
Condition Applications. This allows the company's employees to see that
the company is hiring H-1Bs. As well as the public. Ideally, the
employees and local workers would have an opportunity to apply for
these jobs first, before an H-1B is actually hired. The posting of the
LCAs in a public place is a sign that the company attempted to recruit
U.S. Workers in good faith first, but couldn't find any qualified
applicants. This process should not be secretive. Refusing to post the
LCAs in a public place is a sign that the company recognizes that their
hiring these H-1Bs is improper.
by Bob Smith
Bob Smith wanted to file a brief to support Guy Santiglia's case
against Sun Microsystems, Inc, for two reasons. First, as a software
engineer, he had interviewed potential candidates for technical
positions within Sun Microsystems, Inc., and wanted to relate Sun
management's hiring preferences for cheap labor, as told to him
directly by Sun managers. Later, as a
development manager, he had hired an H-1B visa employee and had direct
knowledge of, and experience with, the Sun HR H-1B hiring process. He
wanted to relate the way that Sun HR required the open job description
and requisition to be hidden so that other qualified employees would
not find out about the job. These actions would directly support Guy
Santiglia's
claims about Sun's mishandling of their LCA and H-1B hiring practices.
I wanted to submit LCAs that proved that Sun hired H-1Bs for positions
similar to Santiglia's before and after his employment was terminated.
This data would back up Santiglia's claim that Sun employees were being
replaced with H-1Bs. Judge Gee refused to accept LCAs during the
hearing because she claimed that she wasn't sure about the source of
the information. the LCAs were taken from the same agency that she
works for, the DOL! I thought that this evidence should be included as
part of the public record and should not be suppressed by a biased
judge.
Our requests to be interested parties wre met with immediate protests
by the immigration lawyer handling Santiglia's case - Roxana Bacon from
Phoenix, Arizona. Here are some summaries of her ungracious and
paranoid remarks that were sent to the ARB. Unfortunately the DOL puts
more faith in her comments than ours.
--- Bacon's comments on Guy Santiglia ---
Bacon says that Santiglia is the only one who has ever filed a
complaint against Sun Microsystems. That's a blatant misstatement of
the truth. Currently there are two class-action lawsuits that allege
the same thing that Santiglia did. There would probably be far more
people complaining if they understood what H-1B was, and if they
weren't afraid of being blackballed by high-tech industries. Bacon says
that Santiglia is making a career out of his advocacy against Sun but
never made it clear how this career of his is paying as much as Sun is
paying her.
Bacon makes a big deal out of the fact that Santiglia had an attorney
from FAIR, so he had legal counsel. The fact is that Santiglia's
pro-bono lawyer was unprepared and unqualified to go against Bacon in
court. During the second day of the hearing, Santiglia dismissed his
attorney because he correctly saw that he was worse off with bad legal
help than facing Judge Gee on his own. Guy's decision was a bold and
dramatic move that would make for a very good movie.
Bacon goes on to smear Santiglia as an anti-immigrant fanatic that
views H-1Bs as enemies. Santiglia never claimed H-1Bs were at fault, he
blames Sun Microsystems for replacing qualified citizens. Santiglia has
never blamed H-1Bs for taking jobs there. Considering the fact that
Santiglia is married to an Asian the charges that he is anti-immigrant
are very hollow.
Bacon's arguments that H-1Bs cover the cost of their education and pay
taxes is irrelevant and false. Although they usually pay out-of-state
tuition, they in no way cover all costs, and not all of them pay taxes.
It's interesting that Bacon considers herself an expert on education
but dismisses Matloff as an unqualified zealot on H-1B.
Out of the several thousand Sun employees in the reduction
in force 19 months ago, only Mr. Santiglia has turned his lay-off
into a career, filing increasingly dramatic pleadings and
developing a conspiracy theory in which everyone, even the
Administrative Law Judge, is out to get him. He is a self-styled
hero for the embattled U.S. workers everywhere, and believes he
is entitled to prevail not because he can prove his legal claim
but because he has a cause.
Lest the Board conclude that Complainant's pro se status makes it
necessary to bend the rules into pretzel shapes, it is important
to
recall that during all times related to the hearing Mr. Santiglia
was represented by counsel. In fact, his counsel is a staff
attorney
with FAIR, this country's most well-funded and harshest critic of
immigration. Mr. Santiglia's lawyer was well versed in the issues
raised in the hearing, and as a licensed attorney is required to
know and adhere to the rules of procedure and evidence. The fact
that Mr. Santiglia chose to discharge his own counsel alter
putting
on his case is irrelevant to whether Mr. Santiglia is subject to
the same rules as every other litigant. Par from being villains,
many of these professionals received their degrees here and are
seeking long term residence in the U.S., and all pay full state
and federal taxes as well as comply with all labor and employment
laws.
They are not the enemy.
--- Bacon's comments on all of us ---
Bacon accuses all of us of being self-serving angry people. Since she
is an immigration attorny who makes money by perpetuating the program,
she is skating on thin ice.
The evidence that these three people are seeking to file now
under the guise of "briefs" is the same material Complainant
offered at the hearing; self-serving opinions and conclusions
from angry people. None of these people had any role in the
decision to lay off Mr., Santiglia. None had any authority to
hire or fire in his department with Sun. And most important,
none carne forward in a timely and proper manner to provide
any legitimate information at the hearing. or course, the ALJ
could not and did not admit as evidence the mere conclusions of
noninvolved from-parties.
--- Bacon's comments on Rob Sanchez ---
Bacon assumes that my intent was to attack H-1B provisions, but she
never saw what I was going to present. Perhaps she has ESP because I
did not state what kind of evidence I was going to submit. My purpose
was to prove that Sun was violating existing provisions. She goes on to
say that only Congress can change the rules. I couldn't agree more!
Nothing about Mr. Sanchez claimed expertise in the H-1B program
meets
that threshold test.
As Mr. Sanchez states directly, he wants to raise issues way
beyond
Santiglia's claims of the violations committed by Sun
Microsystems.
Mr. Santiglia and Mr. Sanchez want to attack the H-1B provisions
themselves because they do not believe the United States should
allow
employers the right to hire foreign nationals in these
professional jobs.
Their argument has no place before DOL, which is charged with
implementing only the LCA part of the H-1B process. That argument
can
only be made to Congress, which is the exclusive legislative body
allowed under the U.S. Constitution to confer immigration
benefits.
Allowing Mr. Sanchez to opine now violates Sun Microsystems' due
process
rights.
--- Bacon's comments on Joe Valley ---
Interested parties don't have to justify why they are qualified or why
they are interested, they just are. I called the ARB office in
Washington D.C. and they confirmed that interested parties are just
that, people interested in the court proceedings. Everything Bacon says
here is irrelevant to the issue.
Mr. Valley offers not a single bit of information about who he is,
why he thinks he is entitled to submit a "brief', or what he adds
to the proceedings. On the basis of these inadequacies alone his
"brief' request must be denied. The fact that he is a complete
strangers to these proceedings until the appellate process is well
underway means that he has failed to meet a single one of the
requirements.
--- Bacon's comments on Robert Smith ---
Judge Gee accepted hearsay evidence from Bacon but wouldn't allow
emails that Smith claimed were his. This double standard is just one of
the reasons that I called the hearing a "Kangaroo Court."
Mr. Smith has provided information about himself and his purported
information about the underlying; complaint. The information fails
to meet any of the requirements for admitting his testimony as
evidence,
Mr. Smith was not present at the hearing, was not identified as a
witness so that he could be deposed, and was a virtual stranger to
the proceeding until Mr. Santiglia and his counsel attempted to
introduce random emails from him. They were rejected by the ALJ as
being "textbook hearsay."
--- Bacon's comments on Norman Matloff ---
Bacon saved the worst vitriol for Matloff, probably because he is a
nationally recognized expert that could do real damage to her flimsy
case. It's quite ironic that Bacon accuses Matloff as being a "zealot
on a crusade" because her ad-hominen attacks are far more fanatical
than anything Matloff has ever said or written. Bacon is an immigration
attorney who has a vested interest in keeping H-1B a cash cow program
for lawyers. Matloff's motives are far more altruistic because he
doesn't have a financial interest in helping Santiglia or any other
victim of H-1B, and he is tenured so his job isn't threatened by H-1B.
Bacon is correct that UC Davis employs H-1Bs. As far as universities
go, they are one of the worst exploiters of nonimmigrant visas. She
uses that to imply that UC Davis doesn't endorse Matloff. UCDavis
appreciates Matloff's good work or they wouldn't give him so many
awards. At the bottom of this newsletter I included a public service
award he won last year. Unfortunately the ARB prefers to listen to
Bacon's distortions of the fact over the truth.
Mr. Matlof 's "brief", which he characterizes as an expert's
opinion,
of the statute and the regulations. They cannot be admitted
without
doing grave harm to the requisite fairness of any appeal process.
Mr. Matloff tried to have himself certified as an expert by the
ALJ
in this proceeding without any factual basis to do so. The ALJ
noted
that his testimony was not that of an expert in the LCA area but a
self-styled expert in deciding what the law should be. Legal
determinations are, of course, solely the business of the Judge.
In
this pleading he continues the same exaggerated claims of his
knowledge.
He lists himself as a member of the college of engineering at the
University of California at Davis [hereafter UCDavis], not a field
relevant to the drafting, implementing, enforcing or auditing of
the
LCA process. But more troubling than his characterizing his
anti-immigration career as LCA expertise is his inability to state
his
position and opinions objectively or professionally. By reacting
to legal
arguments against his alleged expertise as though they are a
personal
attack he confirms that he is, in fact, not a schooled expert but
a zealot
on a crusade. That may make him passionate, but as the ALI agreed,
it does
not snake him eligible to testify.
His zeal, for instance, appears to have led him to misuse the
University
of California at Davis' official stationary, if he has the
University's
permission to use its letterhead to engage in a diatribe against
H-1Bs
specifically or employment-based immigration in several, it would
be
interesting to see it. However, the University of California not
only
employs many H-1Bs itself, but also includes numerous
international
exchange scholars in its faculty and relies upon the lush tuition
charged foreign students to support its programs. The University
does not
endorse Mr. Matloff s views, and with the use of this letterhead
he
continues to misrepresent his credentials. The record confirms
that
Mr. Matloff has absolutely no knowledge about why Sun decided to
include
Complainant in its November 2001 layoff. He has never been had any
relationship with Sun, and has never been inside Sun to review its
business records in regard to LCA documents, procedures, postings
or
materials. In short, he is neither an expert witness nor an
eyewitness
and can add nothing to this proceeding except hostility and bias.
--- ARB Dismissal ---
The ARB listened to Bacon's attacks and never gave us a chance. The
rational for the denials of our request are unconvincing to any that
are willing to review the facts. The full documents can be seen by
going to the following page and looking for our names:
http://www.oalj.dol.gov/public/ina/refrnc/LCA_decisions.htm
The ARB admits that they not only invited us to be interested parties,
they gave us an extension on the deadline:
The Briefing Order stated that, "[t]he Complainant
and other parties and interested persons aggrieved by the ALJ's
Decision and Order, shall file a brief in support of the Petition
for Review . . . on or before May 28, 2003." A subsequent Briefing
Order extending the time from May 28 to June 27 also referred to
"other parties and interested persons." Order Granting Extension
of Time and Amending Briefing Schedule, ARB No. 03-076, issued
May 27, 2003.
The ARB, after inviting us essentially said that they made a mistake.
Their mistake was that we shouldn't be allowed to be interested
parties, even though we were invited. THAT'S QUITE A MISTAKE!
The Briefing Orders may seem to imply that the Board authorized
entities other than the named parties below and the Administrator
to file briefs in Santiglia's appeal. Any such implication was
unintended. As explained above, ' 655.845(a) limits the
individuals
entitled to petition for review to the named parties below and to
the Administrator. The briefing order applied only to parties
within
the meaning of ' 655.845(a).
Here is where things get really strange. I filed my request within
their May 28th deadline, and yet they said that it was untimely filed -
even thought they admit that it was received before the dealine! They
claim that they should have never allowed any of us to be interested
parties after they said we could. All of our requests were denied for
the same reason.
Technicalities like this are nothing but blatant excuses for keeping
our evidence hidden from the public!
Pursuant to 20 C.F.R. ' 655.845(a), the last day for filing a
petition
for review of the ALJ decision below was March 21, 2003. Sanchez's
petition was out of time. Therefore, Sanchez's petition for review
is DISMISSED as untimely filed.
***** --- Status of the Pending Appeal --- *****
Here are some of Roxana Bacon's arguments against the pending appeal
that Santiglia sent to the ARB. My bets are with her, because the DOL
will almost always side with the employer and it appears that Judge
Jennifer Gee agrees with Bacon that Sun Microsystems is a symbol of
integrity.
JULY 25, 2003, In the Matter of: GUY SANTIGLIA Complainant vs. SUN
MICROSYSTEMS, INC., Respondent CASE NO: 2003-LCA-2.
One of Santiglia's complaints is that Sun didn't post the Labor
Condition Applications in a public place, as required by law. Sun
admitted they didn't, but Roxana says the law is "bookish" and
shouldn't be enforced. She goes on to argue that Sun's guilt should be
ignored because companies that can't hire H-1Bs are doomed to go out of
business:
A finding of willfulness that leads to debarment is a
severe penalty, life threatening to any technology employer,
given the limited number of U.S. engineers, especially in the
advanced degree areas.2 Because debarment has such draconian
consequences, only the most severe violations merit a finding o
either willfulness or substantiality.
Bacon emphasizes that the burden of proof is on Santiglia, and in her
opinion there is no proof.
The appellant/complainant in this case failed to meet the
most basic requirements of his burden and quality of proof.
The records Bacon is referring to are the LCAs that Judge Gee rejected.
To state they are unverified is silly, since they are taken directly
from the database.
Complainant repeatedly tried to introduce into evidence
unverified records.
Bacon argues here that the DOL is powerless to enforce it's own rules.
In her opinion, only the INS can enforce H-1B laws. You can bet the INS
will pass the buck back to the DOL if given the opportunity.
Only the INS or its successor, DHS, can enforce the
immigration laws, including the determination as to whether
someone is properly classified in a particular visa category.
This condescending statement by Bacon says it all:
Mr. Santiglia's personal pain is understandable. As most
everyone in the working world has experienced in one way or
another, losing a job can be a serious blow to one's sense of
self. However, the layoffs in the country over the last few
years are a reflection not of any personal animosity toward the
workforce, but the economic reality of having to reduce costs to
stay in business at all. Millions of people have faced what Mr.
Santiglia faced, most with far more time on the job than the
four months he had, and has found a way to move on.
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May 6, 2002
University of California, Davis
THREE WIN PUBLIC SERVICE AWARDS
A tireless campaigner on employment and immigration issues,
an eminent jurist and civil rights leader, and an expert in
response to natural disasters and terrorism who worked at the
World Trade Center site are the winners of this year's
Distinguished Public Service Awards at the University of
California, Davis.
They are Norman Matloff, professor of computer science; Cruz
Reynoso, professor of law, and Dr. R. Steven Tharatt,
professor of pulmonary and critical care medicine. They will
receive their awards at a ceremony on May 6.
The UC Davis Academic Senate, representing all tenured
faculty at the university, makes the awards annually to
recognize significant contributions to the world, nation,
state and community through distinguished public service.
Matloff has written extensively about immigration and
employment issues, affirmative action and age discrimination.
He has been a vocal critic of the use of young, skilled
foreign workers on short-term visas to fill jobs in the
computer industry, arguing that these jobs could be done by
older American programmers and that the foreign-born workers
are vulnerable to exploitation.
Matloff has testified before the U.S. Senate and House of
Representatives on immigration issues and has served as an
expert witness in age-discrimination lawsuits. He has advised
federal and state agencies, including the U.S. departments of
Commerce and State and the White House, on employment issues.
He has served on a number of panels and committees on
computer-industry hiring practices sponsored by industry,
academia, government and public interest groups.
He is a member of the steering committee of the Wen Ho Lee
Defense Fund, which is now working towards a presidential
pardon of the former Los Alamos scientist. Matloff also has
written and campaigned on other cases of alleged racial
discrimination against Asian Americans.
Matloff gained his Ph.D. in mathematics from UCLA in 1975 and
joined the UC Davis faculty the same year. He is a former
member of both the UC Davis and the University of
California's affirmative action committees and has been
active in minority outreach programs.
Reynoso holds the Boochever and Bird Chair for the Study and
Teaching of Freedom and Equality at the UC Davis School of
Law. In the words of his nominator, his career is "a
testament to his deep and enduring commitment to public
service."
One of the leading Chicano civil rights advocates of his
generation, he first gained national recognition fighting for
the rights of the rural poor with California Rural Legal
Assistance. After serving as a jurist with the 3rd District
Court of Appeal for California, Reynoso rose to become the
first Hispanic on the California Supreme Court, serving from
1982 to 1987.
Since 1994, Reynoso has been vice chair of the U.S.
Commission on Civil Rights. He has also served on numerous
other federal, state and professional boards and commissions
concerned with civil rights, immigration and refugee policy,
government reform, the administration of justice, legal
services for the indigent and education.
In 2000, he was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom,
the country's highest civilian honor, in recognition of his
lifelong devotion to public service and the Hispanic Heritage
Foundation's Hispanic Heritage Award in Education.
Since coming to UC Davis from UCLA last year, Reynoso has
been a frequent participant in campus and community events
concerned with civil rights and the Chicano/Latino community.
Tharratt serves as the medical director for Sacramento
County's Office of Emergency Medical Services; medical
adviser to the state Emergency Services Authority and Office
of Emergency Services; and medical adviser for the Sacramento
city and county fire departments. He also is a member of the
state's standing Commission on Terrorism and the FBI's
Northern California Task Force. In those roles, he is
responsible for assessing the threat of terrorist acts and
recommending the appropriate medical response.
Tharatt is medical manager for Sacramento's Urban Search and
Rescue Team Task Force 7, one of 28 specialized heavy-rescue
teams in the country. On September 11, 2001, he was part of
the team that responded to the World Trade Center attack and
spent 11 days searching for victims in the collapsed
buildings.
Tharratt was among 17 physicians and researchers who served
on a committee of the Institute of Medicine and the National
Research Council that assessed the nation's ability to
respond to biological and chemical terrorist attacks. In 2000
he participated in a two-week field exercise in Kharkov,
Ukraine, organized by the Ukrainian government and the U.S.
departments of defense and state. In 1997, he toured
Indonesia with a United Nations team evaluating poison
control, environmental assessment and food safety programs.
Note: Photographs of awardees are available. Contact Andy
Fell for details.
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